Roger Drummer Ben Greenfield

Ben Greenfield Fitness Podcast – Cancer and Chinese Medicine

From Ben Greenfield Fitness –

Roger Drummer is a Diplomate of Chinese herbology and holds a U.S. patent for growing biologically active, anthocyanin-rich medicinal mushrooms. Roger’s 27 years of experience as a Chinese herbalist ranges from formulating personalized tonic herb and nutritional programs for tens of thousands of clients to teaching and training apprentices in the art of tonic herbalism.

Roger has studied a variety of healing modalities including Jin Shin Do, Shiatsu, Pranic Healing, Sat Nam Rasayan, Jin Shin Jitsu and is a Reiki Master. Roger is the co-owner and formulator of, makers of TianChi and Inner Peace.

In our last email correspondence, Roger informed me that last summer he had stage 3 bladder cancer, which required bladder and prostate removal along with cutting his colon to make a new bladder bag – a protocol that only has a 20% survival rate at five years.

He then highlighted how he eliminated his cancer in five weeks with meditation (including Qi, Tantra, quantum physics and meditation), adaptogenic herbs and a ketogenic diet. He experienced a spontaneous healing – his goal – at five weeks and instantly knew he was cancer free. This has been confirmed in two different biopsies in September and December of this past year.

Obviously, I had to get Roger on the podcast to discuss this unique approach, and he obliged. During our discussion, you’ll discover:

-Why Roger thinks he got stage 3 bladder cancer and prostate removal cancer despite being a very healthy Chinese herbologist… [00:08:30]

-How environment, stress, and genetics affect the growth of cancer… [00:13:53]

-How Roger eliminated his cancer in 5 weeks with meditation, herbs and a ketogenic diet… [00:24:49] -How Roger utilized something called the glucose-ketone index… [00:27:40]

-How Roger used the adaptogenic formulas TianChi and Inner Peace in his healing program… [00:30:19]

-Roger’s anti-cancer blend of berberine, curcumin phytosome, green tea phytosome, boswellia, milk thistle, N-Acetyl Cysteine, ashwaganda, resveratrol, genistein, R-Lipoic acid, and quercetin… [00:33:22]

–The new meditation strategy Roger used to defeat his cancer, including Qi, Tantra, and Quantum physics… [00:39:50]

-Roger’s crazy experience with entering into a “bliss state”, even while having cancer… [00:47:33]

-Whether Roger used any “biohacks” for mitochondria or other cancer therapies, like hyperbaric oxygen or ozone therapy… [00:54:46] -And much more! [01:09:00]

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This Post Has 3 Comments

  1. I appreciate the info on the podcast and the list of items you provided (Roger’s anti-cancer blend of berberine, curcumin phytosome, green tea phytosome, boswellia, milk thistle, N-Acetyl Cysteine, ashwaganda, resveratrol, genistein, R-Lipoic acid, and quercetin).

    Can you send quality suppliers for the items you used?

    Also, when do you expect your book for herbs for different cancers to come out (or available)? I am very interested in preventing cancer by taking herbs routinely along with Inner Peace.

  2. Hi Rich,

    I want to clarify something. The list of herbs I used may not apply to someone else’s situation. There is probably some overlap but every situation is different and needs its own research and decisions. Curcumin, green tea and resveratrol are a great start for supplementing as part of any program for prevention of chronic disease.

    For curcumin look for Meriva, green tea phytosome is nearly impossible to find-good luck. For ashwagandha look for KSM-66. I use it in all my formulas. For genistein and boswellia I used NOW products. All of the others listed can be found at as their own brand or Jarrow as a great alternative.


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